lok paritran - Counter View
Of late the buzz word seems to be ‘Lok Paritran’ which is a political party. Never before has a political party created such hype and attained such media hype. Even those normally disinterested are talking about this party. There are even a few Orkut groups dedicated to this party. From the attention give to this party by the intelligentsia it seemed to me that this party has a vision for India, to transform India, they seemed like saviors, providing the electorate an alternative to the current crop of politicians. They have undertaken a membership drive, where almost every youngster joining them. They clearly have the attention of the intelligentsia.
Out of sheer curiosity, I decided to do some research on the party and their manifesto, especially since they are contesting Mylapore constituency in the TN elections I decided to do some googling for them. I landed up on their website.
Basically the party says they will strive for happiness, prosperity, good governance and justice. That is what I inferred, if one visits their ideology page, one is confronted with some excellent philosophical writing, for example this on the first principle of happiness
From this it seems that this seems more at home in a philosophical book rather than a political party’s ideology!! And after reading the party’s ideology page, it seems that the party aims to reform the entire Indian political system, right down to the constitution, and maybe even embark on a voyage to spiritually awaken the Indian people and free them from the clutches of this materialistic world. We have a political party that promises to do what Sri Sri Ravishanker does or rather people like him.
Second important aspect is how they plan to achieve their goal, the Strategy. First they party concludes that people are hopeless,
Now after having called me hopeless, a sloth, smartass, armchair analyst who wont move his ass and but will decry society, they mention as to how they plan to change society, basically decide to get me and the billion Indians under this state of hopelessness out of this state, by inculcating honest people into politics, which is their aim, but says nothing about what they intend to do after coming to power, apart from the saving me and a billion Indians from their feeling of hopelessness, their intentions seems to be hazy and vague.
What a party does in office is as important as winning an election, this party is unclear as to what they intend to do after winning elections, whereas the other parties are clear as to how they will use or rather abuse power once they win elections.
What does the party plan to do for a daily laborer? Or a poor agricultural laborer, what are they planning to do for him? They still haven’t dealt with the issues of the average Indian voter, but are focusing on the educated minority voter.
They don’t seem to have a focus, and a very vague idea of their economic policy, apart from the belief that India can be made into a formidable economic power if the current political system made accountable and efficient. I never knew the solution to transforming India into an economic power house is this simple, especially as the answer to India’s economic growth.
They just are like any other political party except for the window dressing, they claim they are clean, have honest intentions, and have given up plum jobs in USA and elsewhere to enter politics. But is politics really such a bad option? Politicians in India have the opportunity to a whole lot more in the 5 years they spend in office that what these people will make in all probability in USA, even if their political gamble doesn’t work, the members an always return to their USA jobs, so have they really made a sacrifice? Even Captain has much more at stake than this party, he can’t return to movies if his political venture turns sour.
Its too early to be sure of the intentions of this party, the more educated the candidate, who havent made their intentions clear, the more skeptical I am, they can use their education to swindle money more deftly, and discretely. Education I believe has nothing to do with good governance, Kamraj and Anna, I haven’t lived when they ruled, but I‘ve heard they were good rulers weren’t educated in the sense these IITians are, but they nevertheless provided good governance.
If this party is serious about their goals, it would be better if they could do some constructive at the grass root level before contensting elections, and make their intentions clear. No political party is formed overnight, doenst just drop from the sky, most are the result of some movement or the other, and this aprty seems to have dropped from the sky, which is why I am averse to them. If they had a movement, or some grassroot level activists, in non-middleclass areas, I would be sure of their intentions, and will consider voting for them, lets not fool ourselves, they arent going to transform India like they claim to be able to even if they come to power. Apart from being IITians, there is no other reason for the huge support they enjoy, clearly there is no defacto ruling that IITians are clean and not corrupt. There are many IITians who break the rules, and are equally corrupt.
And I believe in this election, the party won’t win even a single seat and will loose the deposit in most of the seats they are contesting.
PS: for all those of you who believe that I crib about politicians and don’t support those who strive to make a difference, what proof is there that Lok Paritrana might not become another corrupt political party? I would rather support the known devil rather than the unknown devil, if they have done some work at the grassroot level then the picture is entirely different. Secondly I am skeptical of a party that has so far attracted only the educated and the intelligentsia, rather than focusing on the common Indian voter.
Out of sheer curiosity, I decided to do some research on the party and their manifesto, especially since they are contesting Mylapore constituency in the TN elections I decided to do some googling for them. I landed up on their website.
The ideology of “Paritrana” is based on understanding the problem at the highest levels of abstraction and taking action which is consonant with the deriving principles.
The ideology has both the components of knowledge system and understanding. The integrated understanding and in depth understanding of deriving principles is of more value compared to analysis of action patterns.
The principles they refer to are theseSabhi Sukh Ho
Sukh Ka Mol Samridhi Ho
Samaradhi Ka Mol rajya Ho
Rajya Ka Mol Danda Ho
The happiness is a construct hard to define. Finer concepts are harder to define. Yet happiness in some sense everybody knows and doesn't need any explanation or definition. Though “happiness” is not equivalent of “ ” since it carries much shallow meaning but that's the nearest translation in English. The happiness of humankind ultimately lies in understanding of its own instincts, along with understanding the world around.
From this it seems that this seems more at home in a philosophical book rather than a political party’s ideology!! And after reading the party’s ideology page, it seems that the party aims to reform the entire Indian political system, right down to the constitution, and maybe even embark on a voyage to spiritually awaken the Indian people and free them from the clutches of this materialistic world. We have a political party that promises to do what Sri Sri Ravishanker does or rather people like him.
Second important aspect is how they plan to achieve their goal, the Strategy. First they party concludes that people are hopeless,
‘This state of affairs is somehow deeply ingrained in the minds of the people and has resulted in a state of collective hopelessness. The most honest efforts are viewed with suspicion because people have lost the ability to comprehend the possibility of the existence of good will.’
Now after having called me hopeless, a sloth, smartass, armchair analyst who wont move his ass and but will decry society, they mention as to how they plan to change society, basically decide to get me and the billion Indians under this state of hopelessness out of this state, by inculcating honest people into politics, which is their aim, but says nothing about what they intend to do after coming to power, apart from the saving me and a billion Indians from their feeling of hopelessness, their intentions seems to be hazy and vague.
What a party does in office is as important as winning an election, this party is unclear as to what they intend to do after winning elections, whereas the other parties are clear as to how they will use or rather abuse power once they win elections.
What does the party plan to do for a daily laborer? Or a poor agricultural laborer, what are they planning to do for him? They still haven’t dealt with the issues of the average Indian voter, but are focusing on the educated minority voter.
They don’t seem to have a focus, and a very vague idea of their economic policy, apart from the belief that India can be made into a formidable economic power if the current political system made accountable and efficient. I never knew the solution to transforming India into an economic power house is this simple, especially as the answer to India’s economic growth.
They just are like any other political party except for the window dressing, they claim they are clean, have honest intentions, and have given up plum jobs in USA and elsewhere to enter politics. But is politics really such a bad option? Politicians in India have the opportunity to a whole lot more in the 5 years they spend in office that what these people will make in all probability in USA, even if their political gamble doesn’t work, the members an always return to their USA jobs, so have they really made a sacrifice? Even Captain has much more at stake than this party, he can’t return to movies if his political venture turns sour.
Its too early to be sure of the intentions of this party, the more educated the candidate, who havent made their intentions clear, the more skeptical I am, they can use their education to swindle money more deftly, and discretely. Education I believe has nothing to do with good governance, Kamraj and Anna, I haven’t lived when they ruled, but I‘ve heard they were good rulers weren’t educated in the sense these IITians are, but they nevertheless provided good governance.
If this party is serious about their goals, it would be better if they could do some constructive at the grass root level before contensting elections, and make their intentions clear. No political party is formed overnight, doenst just drop from the sky, most are the result of some movement or the other, and this aprty seems to have dropped from the sky, which is why I am averse to them. If they had a movement, or some grassroot level activists, in non-middleclass areas, I would be sure of their intentions, and will consider voting for them, lets not fool ourselves, they arent going to transform India like they claim to be able to even if they come to power. Apart from being IITians, there is no other reason for the huge support they enjoy, clearly there is no defacto ruling that IITians are clean and not corrupt. There are many IITians who break the rules, and are equally corrupt.
And I believe in this election, the party won’t win even a single seat and will loose the deposit in most of the seats they are contesting.
PS: for all those of you who believe that I crib about politicians and don’t support those who strive to make a difference, what proof is there that Lok Paritrana might not become another corrupt political party? I would rather support the known devil rather than the unknown devil, if they have done some work at the grassroot level then the picture is entirely different. Secondly I am skeptical of a party that has so far attracted only the educated and the intelligentsia, rather than focusing on the common Indian voter.
Lok paritran gaining limelight could be 'coz it was started by IITians..may be they think "out of the box".Who wud know if a party was started by guys from vivekananda or presidency ..LOL
Posted by
yaathum ariyen paraparame.. |
8:24 AM
Very nicely written Vatsan. There is a lot of hype about them and people were blogging about them without looking into the details. But as you have observed, they are focusing on the educated minority voter. That won't help them.
Posted by
Jo |
9:35 AM
my friend in chennai a pondy resident have requested the party to nominate him to stand for a assembly seat . let me see if he is nominated.
Posted by
Known Stranger |
9:59 AM
@yaathum ariyen paraparmae
i dont think any one would, IIT brand has gotten them the limelight
@jo
thanks
@known Stranger
all the best for ur friend,
Posted by
ada-paavi!!!! |
10:11 AM
for me in politics i would definitely support an unknown devil than a known one.
the more u go after known thugs,the more u r ratifying their deeds.
u take any state in the country.
u will find that the places where parties dont have outragious majority govern better.
for eg Tn during 1991-1996. the ADMK had 200+ seats out of 234. the period that followed was the worst in the history of tamilnadu.
things r much better now bcos there is no such monsterous majority
on the other hadn u take kerala. u will never find such "clean sweep majority"
ground level state machinery is much beter there than any other place i know.
These guys r indeed making a sacrifice in that they can make truckloads of money sitting in the US,UK without sacrifing teir comforts.
IMHO u shud visit the semi rural and rural places in tamilnadu and then talk abt politics. chennai insulates u from reality...
angey ellam nee kaasu kuduthu iru na kooda iruka maatey. its not just a question of money. the entire culture is different.
when educated intellectuals r
looking fwd to the next flight abroad to make their moolah i think its nice of them to come from the developed first world to do something to their country.
if at all they had anything to gain they cud make that with sophistication and style in US , not here in rural India.
in order for democracy to survive ppl shud have the mentality of ecouraging new, youngsters...
mathi maathi vote potta dhaan rule panravangalukku bayam irukkum..
or else u will have a sitn like chepauk where MK stands in the election boldly without even going to the assembly once. ellam yaarai nambi? epdi irundhaalum "rising sun" ku vote pdara mada pasangalai nambi...
ipdi mylapore pookari madhiri "naanga eppovume irattai ilai ku dhaan poduven.. yenna adhaan enga panpaadu kalacharam" nu sollitu irundha (that too the so called eucated guys like u) democracy um urupadadhu india vum urupadaadhu.
Posted by
Prabu Karthik |
10:42 AM
our bet still stands good :)
cheers :)
Posted by
Vidya |
11:30 AM
I beg to differ on the 'education and governance' thing. Education (I am using it synonymously with knowledge) opens the door to a multitude of fields. Being a Jack of all trades will certainly make the candidate more efficient and result-oriented.
Posted by
Jayan |
11:31 AM
@ Jayan
well in that case how come lalu hasnt done much? he holds a Masters in Pol Science frm Patna Univ ( it was good then) or WB and the left (the communists r amongst the most educated politicians) how come these states havent done well?
@vidya
sure,
@pk
i would vote for them, but no political party drops from the sky, it is a movement, PMK wasnt formed overnite, it was a result of the vanniyar sangam, it is a movement, likewise for DMK and ADMK. this party seems to have dropped from the sky, and its even more distressing that they are contesting the urban seats, and havent campagined for the non-urban voter, neengal sollera gramathu aalungal
//when educated intellectuals r looking fwd to the next flight abroad to make their moolah i think its nice of them to come from the developed first world to do something to their country.//
until they do something i dont think we can say this, grass root la velai seiyatam, if they are donig constructive work and are really the alternative even i might join them, and election la nindhu win pannatom, apporam edavathu senjapopram idu sollalam
encourage youngsters ellam correct, adukku we cant vote everyguy who claims he will bring about change, LALU promised change, 15 yrs bihar suffered, LEFT promised change 30 yrs WB has sufered, idunala we have to be careful about whom we vote for.
Posted by
ada-paavi!!!! |
12:38 PM
Your scepticism is valid but at the same time, You are educated, can you give up your job and take politics as your career? you have family commitments and other stuff too. So basically you have to sacrifice something to come into politics. Uyirukku vera guarantee kedaiyaadhu. You shud atleast appreciate their attitude. To do some constructive work in this society you must have money or power, they dont have the former, they are asking us for the latter, enakku therinji matha naadhaaringalukku votu podaradhukku we can give a try atleast with these guys, ippo irukkaravanga nasam panninadha vuda onnum ivanga panniduvaanga enakku thonalai, all we need is a change from this Dravida blah blah Kazhagam blah blah crap thats all. But as you said educated ppl need not be gud rulers.
Posted by
Ram |
6:13 PM
vatsan,
nee solradha partha ennamo ella opinion polls layum lok paritran dhaan varadhu madhiri solre.
the point i am trying to make is, there is alwyas a first time no matter who u r.
DMK and ADMK too were first timers sometime back. true they did not win the same way paritrana is not going to win either.
but some people indeed voted for DMK when it contested elecitons the first time...
edhuvume overnightla vara mudiyadhu...
u r talking abt why lok paritrana is not contesting in rural areas. i am telling u there is not many ppl to contests for lok paritranaeven in urban areas...
rural la apdi oru katchi iruku ne theriyadhu..
nee enamo lok paritrana nalaiku aatchi amaika pora madhiri solrey...
i am saying somebody shud and will vote for lok paritrana
just like some voted for s ve shekher when he stood as an independent. sure he did not win but it showed he had some believers. ippo avan admk la nikkaradhukku adhu oru value addition. if u dont remember brish up yr memory...
i know some of my friends wo worked for him in that election..
grassrootla velai epdiyum pannanum aatchiyai pidikanumna...
it ges without saying...\
but its by voting these guys thatwe show that there is indeed a voter base for parties and ideologies like this.
illena briyani vangi kudukara katchiyum, quarter vaangi kudukara katchiyum dhaan election la nikkum..
will u vote for marutham makkal munnetra kazhagam? its ased somewhere in rural areas. nee solra ground work(read adiyaal velai, dadaism) laam nalla pannvuanga...
his wife was rwcetnly killed in a daring attack on him near tuticorin..
he himself has sveeral murder cases..
so rural areas la ground level la avlo active appo adhukku vote podalaama?
Posted by
Prabu Karthik |
6:18 PM
yr cynicism and pessimism is reflective of the state of affairs in our political environment...
idhaan unmai...
Posted by
Prabu Karthik |
6:20 PM
prabhu are u saying that we need to vote for them just cos they are contesting these elections???just to show our solidarity to these idealists
Posted by
Paurna |
7:29 PM
Vatsan...இனிய தமிழ் புத்தாண்டு நல்வாழ்த்துகள்
Posted by
ashok |
7:46 PM
Vatsa
First of all Tamil Puthaandu Vaazthukkal.
Now coming to ur point tell what these known devils have done for us.
Dude have some hope these ittians seems to be focussed.
Lets give them a chance.
We have to start some where
Posted by
Ganesh |
10:14 PM
Wrote a decent comment and unfortunately I lost it. Just wanted say that I tried to look at the historical context of the party launch here
Posted by
Rajesh |
11:43 PM
PK oru vottu potta 100 votukku samam..
Posted by
yaathum ariyen paraparame.. |
1:55 AM
@RAM : Any ram robert rahman can contest Indian elections as independent candidates or just for the heck of it,no matter they win or lose deposit,no matter they are educated or illiterate.
U know the educated elite mass never votes. So, definitely its a known fact that this party wud not gain seats. The media projects lok paritrana ppl as some sages from abroad trying to save corrupt india.
well, whatever the outcome of polls 2006 be, lets keep a tab as where these "politicians" are headed for ? To america or andipatti ?
Lets see
Posted by
yaathum ariyen paraparame.. |
2:04 AM
http://www.hindu.com/2006/04/14/stories/2006041415970100.htm
Posted by
yaathum ariyen paraparame |
2:30 AM
paurna,
i will ask u another question. ivangulukku vote podalena vera yaaruku odanum? can u give me valid reasons?
inge irukaravanga la yaaru kai sutham? DMK?ADMK?is amma clean politican?
the only person who is relatively clean is Vaiko. but even he showed he can do somersaults just like that. he is clean bcos he has never seen positions of power.
i like those guys who r indeed making a sacrifice (no matter what vatsan says) to come out of the first world and trying (atleast trying) to do something...
if any of u guys think that lok paritrana is going to get substantial number of votes that is way far off the mark.
they r hardly visible.
namma generations laye parkarom. we r selfish to the core.
With this sitn i find it refreshing to see some young frwesh faces coming in with hope and optimism.
for me lok paritrana need not win. every vote they get is a measure of the optimism of the present day ppl on this country.
Posted by
Prabu Karthik |
11:35 AM
@prabhu,since they are an unknown entity and since they are ex iitans who have left their job and want to change this society quoting vedas and shlokas we need to support them?
all i wud say is that i will wait for their reactions after elections.if they stay back then i will trust them but if they return to the comfort of their jobs then...
Posted by
Paurna |
2:25 PM
So people are going to go for a known devil?
There is indeed a feeling of hopelessness, just to quote an example - "for all those of you who believe that I crib about politicians and don’t support those who strive to make a difference, what proof is there that Lok Paritrana might not become another corrupt political party?"
If they succeed in pulling the "elite" non voting members of the community to the poll booth, they have succeeded in bringing about a change.
To me, it sounds more like inexperience - that they are not promising color tvs or dvd players or free rations.
Whatever it is, they can't be worse than any of the current parties. At least their education/background might help them to not take up brooms from their house(s) everytime someone says something controversial.
True democracy needs education, not necessarily academic, but knowledge is much needed in our country. Except for a handful, people who don't have an educational background, mostly have a tunnel vision. Of course, a lot of literates do too!
I agree with you that they need to do something at a grass roots level and prove themselves. Sort of like a marketing campaign, if nothing else!
Posted by
Munimma |
12:15 AM
For ensuring victory in polls you require either a well oiled party machine with deep pockets or a perceptible swing in public opinion in your side. As of now Lok Paritrana appears to have neither. Also they appear to be vague on their stand on the various issues which polarise the Indian political spectrum like Uniform civil code, Article 370, Reservations etc.
But Mr Vatsan, it is the thought that counts. Imagine someone standing in elections knowing fully well that they would lose. That takes guts and is far more involvement than most of us.
Posted by
Vivek Vaidyanathan |
7:50 PM
Their intention of entering politics might be good, but that alone will not let them survive in politics. I hear from my friends who spoke to them in person, that they are not even clear of their own plans. Seem to be too short-sighted and apparently, only have the upcoming elections in mind... I wish there's a little more planning to the whole thing...
Posted by
Madhu |
12:07 AM
@madhu
its terribly short sighted, and secondly we just hope that they dont turn out like ADMK or DMK
@vivek vaidyanathan
u can also win an election based on good will u enjoy with the people, someoe who has worked with tribals or has contributed something to the area can win.
see once again vivek, its just hope that these people arent like admk or dmk, which is entirely depended on their IITian image, wud u say the same ting if a presidency college student came?
@PK
the point i am makin is fairly simple, we hope that these guys rnt like the others based on their IIT image, its nothng else, just pure hope, if they turn out like the others i believe it will be harder to oust them, look at wb, where a corrupt educated politicians are ruling for over 30 yrs? its ver hard to oust them because of their well oiled election rigging mechanism (refer tehelka for this, archives, its subscription therfore cant find the link), secondly there is a first time, but had the party been formed 1 yr ago and then was working i might have more faith than now,
@muniamma
as of now these guys arent clear of anything, no vision, its all abstract, i am even unclear of their intentions, yes they wont take up brooms, just will crack down on people speaking, and trust me the educated do a brilliant job at creating the illusion of freedom and ultimately cracking down on it
@Ganesh and ashok
thanks
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Posted by
Anonymous |
6:35 AM
purely reactionary blog.I read ur profile- apparently some ppl call u an intellectual.well u dont need to entertain any doubts abt their mental capacity,its somewhere close to zero.A healthy skepticism towards the movement is acceptable -but this kind of garbage.You are one of those many guys who suffer from two things:
1. You want to give the image of an extremely intelligent guy with very original ideas.What is the simplest way to do that-take up an issue where there is near complete unanimity of opinion.Trash those opinions ("hey! u guys never thought on these lines see how brainy i am")
2.get noticed by means possible
But then why am i replying to this blog.Frankly,i dont seem to have anything better to do right now!
Now let me try to respond to your points:
1.Yes,their ideology is definitely a vague and abstract.They currently do not have any concrete plans.But man,dont u realise that its only a efw months since they started the party.Do u know how difficult it is to start a new organisation,leave alone a politcal one.And whats more,they are young,inexperienced bunch.Give them some time and then lets see how their policies evolve.
2."called me hopeless, a sloth, smartass, armchair analyst who wont move his ass and but will decry society" - Well they did not say anything of that sort.But I should congratualte you,u seemd to have achieved some degree of self-realization,I suggest you introspect further on those lines!To say that there is a collective sense of hopelessness in society ,most people would agree - is a simple statement of fact.Thats why we hardly find any honest people enetering poilitcs.That the most honet efforts are looked at with suspicion - well one just need to read ur blog.
3. right now they obviosuly do not have answers to specific problems (like doing something for the daily laborer).But these specific policies would evolve out of experience and interaction at th grassroot level
4."But is politics really such a bad option?" - Oh but u r assuming that they just need to contest and they wld win hands down - be in office for 5 years and earn a fortune.It doesnt cross ur mind that these young fellows hv taken a huge risk.Victory at the hustings is atleast a few years away.Do u eralize the amount of hardwork they need to put in to build the party?And the chances of victory even then- remote to say the least.And even if they get back to work after a few years,do you realize how much they wld lose in terms of career devolepment?U claim to be intellectual - u dont even seem to know how to do a simple risk reward analysis!And to compare the captain- hes 53 years lod and nearing the end of his film career- favorably with them,what a joke!
5."but I‘ve heard they were good rulers" - spoken like true intellectual!I heard they were good rulers,so they must be.Well reading up and finding out is probably not preferred option for this "intellectual.For ur info,anna was a bad administrator - it was during his time that corruption really took off in TN and he damaged the state finances with his populist promises.For a change,y dont u check out the facts urself - instead of just beleiving or disbelieving what someone says?And what amazing logic - education can be used to to swindle money more effectively but the same education wld not be useful to run a better administartion.Does it not occur to u that what education is to give the person the ability to analyse problems and think out solutions in a better way?
6."they could do some constructive at the grass root level before contensting elections, " - well do u know that they hv not done any grassroot work?Why dont u do some reading before expressing an opinion.Why dont u check out the background of these leaders?
7.They are in the limelight becos they are iitians and rightly so.For two reasons : they are sacrificng much much more in terms of careers than what an average graduate wld lose.Secondly,people rightly judge that these people are likely to have a higher level of IQ than aan average graduate.SO they might be able to provide a better solutions to our problems.Of coure,this is not degrade non-iitians,but in some cases we will ahve to make such judgements in the absencee of complete information.
8. "what proof is there that Lok Paritrana might not become another corrupt political party? " - Oh what an intelligent and origianl argument!What proof do u hv that this party would also become corrupt like others.What is the "opportunity cost"(do u know wat that means?)of voting for them?If they also become corrupt,we still have lost nothing.But see the potential benefits : They might actually turn out to be honest.And secondly,if this party gets ,say,10% of the vote.then it makes the old parties sit up and take notice.there is a possibilty that they wld start realizing that if they dont deliver,people wld move towards other options.In fact that is what democracy is all about.
9."so far attracted only the educated and the intelligentsia" why are they not citizewns of the country?And is it not much better than the current politicl parties which appeal to specific caste and communities?
Posted by
sai aravindh |
5:06 PM
Nalla sonninga sir...
ivangalum panna mattanga... pannaravangalayum panna vuda mattanga....
yellarum color TV kk asa padarango...
yenakku ungala madhiri periya english la yezhudha varadhu...
ana onnu mattum solrango...
imbuttu peru vandhu onnum pannala... ivangala orukka try panni pappame.. ada over night la yarum vara mattanga.. konjam time koduppom... chumma kamaraj anna padikkadhavanga solra kadha yellam venam... appa vera.. ippa vera...
orukka vote pottu parunga... appuram pappaom.. natta valara vudungapppa... pesi pesiya kaippulla madhiri panringa...
Posted by
ChinnaPayan |
2:59 AM
Its me again - sai aravindh.So u r a fan of P. sainath.Now it adds up.there are clear similarities between you two - crticism comes naturally to both of u,not a single constructiev idea comes out and finally both of u crib abt how bad the whole world and how things will only get worse.The guy can pour out reams and reams of sob stories in the rural areas - but has he ever come with any constructive idea abt how to resolve the issue.probably,he has noble intentions - but whats the point.Whats the use of writing/reading the same kind of tragedies all the time if one does not know the solution to it.
Posted by
sai aravindh |
6:49 PM
Sai,
I guess I was supporting what you said and I assume you are not writing me all these.
Posted by
ChinnaPayan |
1:32 AM
you say you're not going to support an unknown devil.
what proof do you have this party's a devil?
Posted by
Prad |
1:42 AM
they really wanna to chnage and who ever is writing againest them he must be agent of any party
Posted by
Anonymous |
2:18 AM
Lok paritrana is an another hindu fanatic outfit with a hidden agenda and not suitable for TN. Read the second posting in the page Click Here and decide! They are exposed in TN
Posted by
chella |
7:32 PM
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Maniranjan Kumar |
5:14 PM
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Posted by
Maniranjan Kumar |
5:37 PM
Hi guys!!!
thats great that u are doing so much for our country.
i think u guys are into HINDUISM..more than into doing something for the COUNTRY...our county is good...for its UNITY IN DIVERSITY..!!!
Just wanted to remind this ...!!!
if thats not it...then i'm with u..!!!
Posted by
Anonymous |
1:12 AM
Hi,
Read your blog and ur so called "intellectual" views on this political party. I'm also another madrasi like you. The very fact that I despise about your kirukkals is the so called claim of yours being an intellectual. Dude intellectuals like you and me who have done arm chair criticism have contributed nothing to the society. The least we can do is to sit inside an air conditioned office and google about a political party and blog about it whose ulterior motive is just to impress some of your old friends about the way you think about a matter or probably to do tome pass. But other than that we cannot do anything. An action of the smallest magnitude is worth a million times than all a zillion intellectual jargon of this kind. The people who have rocked the world were not intellectuals but were men of action irrespective of whether their intentions were good or bad.
So instead of going out and cleaning the system nobody wants your so called "elitist" views about the intentions of a party which even if superficially is making an effort to do something worthwhile.
Peace out......
Posted by
Anonymous |
10:18 PM
Every one here ( including the Author ) seem to blame the Party for their immaturity, unclear plans, confused state.
Yes they are immature for politics for now for that they r just one year old in politics ( where no dirty politics was done ) and they have good visions/intentions for the country. When the Booth Capturing happened at Chennai Elections during Oct 06( Which is most obvious in all elections ), none of us bothered to react/file a PIL or may be even that not voted but we blame these youngsters. We are just good for blaming the bad and doubting the good ( for that good never happened! ). Com'n guyz ...wakeup...make a difference...think to see what best is that u can do.
They have unclear plans - may be Yes since planning just doesnot help if not executed.What's the need of the hour is to gain the confidence of the ppl that good things can still hapen.Why dont each of us help these youngsters in this mission - may be, public conferences...debates in College/Scholls over Social issues, making the Youth aware of Different Govt Policies, making the ppl/youth understand the governance ( most of us go to middle man because we dont know the rules ),making the youth understand ROI acts, encouraging the ppl/youth to understand/file PIL ,encouraging the youths@village to work proactively for the development of the village etc.,
Would all help the country and thus the vision of Lok Paritrana.There are many social organiztions working in bits and pieces for the development of village..what we need is the collective effort.
We dont do all these because we r good enuf to be blogging and pass comments BUT NEVER HAVE GUTS AND COURAGE TO ACT UP ON...and for doing all these one need to sacrifice their profession and jump into the noble cause at the cost of the luxury we have now with our career's. How Selfish are we.
Why dont the expert mind ( may be the Old people/Experts in the Industry) come forward and guide these ppl which is the need of the hour for these Youths.
Its not easy to quit your profession and jump into politics when u dont have strong FInancial Background or a God Father...which is the Case with Lok Paritrana.
By telling all this, i am not blindly Supporting this party...wheneverthing else is Bad..and when something can happen for good...lets collectively support to see what best can happen...INSTEAD OF JUST SITTING IN THOSE A/c ROOMS, BLOGGING AND PASSING USELESS COMMENTS AND FORGETTING THINGS AFTER THAT.
WAKE UP GUYS...MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR YOURSELF AND THE COUNTRY
Prashanth
Posted by
Anonymous |
9:11 PM
See this for live interview of President and Spokesperson of BPD.
http://wuvtindian.blogspot.com/2007/02/feb-17-meeting-with-president-of-bharat.html
Posted by
Raag |
3:40 AM
Unfortunately, like several othere here, I jhave less reasin to cheer:
http://hindudharma.wordpress.com/2007/03/24/dark-clouds-just-got-darker/
But I hope I can be proved wrong.
Posted by
b shantanu |
7:31 PM
An update on LP, BPD, BM that you will find interesting. I look forward to comments and thoughts:
http://hindudharma.wordpress.com/2007/04/13/bpd-bm-lp-light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel/
Posted by
B Shantanu |
9:38 PM
See Boss,
Making criticism is very easy. I am not sure whether you have seen their educational Background or not. They Can get very good Jobs to survive in the world but Then they have started this activity. We should support them in any ways. No one is perfect on the earth. If you think that there are some problem some where in Lok Paritran, Why can't you come forward for its rectification. First check yourself and then make any comments.
There are just trying to do some thing better. Success will come tomorrow but for that they need our support.
Regards,
Anuj
Posted by
Mishra |
3:44 PM
I am only glad, that all of us are talking.. :)
Posted by
Saurabh Nyalkalkar |
1:54 AM